M Power Vs Fusion 8

[Garry Boniface]

Although most of my work is Low moisture situations, I am finding that I am coming across jobs when I need HWE.

I have been happily using Spitfire Advanced (Pre-spray then clean water rinse) but Dry Fusion UK are having trouble supplying at the moment.

So...

Both M-Power and Fusion 8 get great reviews here but I am a little unsure which is best for a particular situation.

Can someone explain which is best for which situation please?

Garry

 

[stuart clark]

I would say imo that you cant realy beat m power for versitility, but ive only used fusion 8 a few times, got a sample from nick the other da, and its pretty good stuff, but still prefer my m power! use fusion clean too but as i said you cant beat m power

 

[Steve Rothwell]

I would generally use the M power mixed at 120:1 as per instructions, and if it is really minging and traffic areas, then spray over the top with the fusion at about 80:1 and then agitate and cool water rinse.

Usually works at treat.

hope this helps

Steve

 

[David Rogers]

I'm not sure on the technical differences between them but as I understand from the directions on the labels, Fusion8 is intended for the HWE method, in other words I guess it needs to be rinsed if used as a pre-spray, or else used in the tank.

M-Power appears to be a more versatile product and can be used in HWE or Rotary methods. (So I believe does not require HWE rinsing. I certainly used M-Power with my Heated Rotary machine and got brilliant results (see seperate thread).

As far as I can gather it's;

Fusion 8: For HWE use,
Fusion Clean: For Rotary use,
M-Power: Versatile option for either

If in doubt, get M-Power, you're unlikely to be disappointed!

Cheers,
Dave

 

[John Bolton]

I
Fusion 8: For HWE use,
Fusion Clean: For Rotary use,
M-Power: Versatile option for either

If in doubt, get M-Power, you're unlikely to be disappointed!

Spot on Mate!


I still cannot always clearly decide between Fabric 8 and M-P on some jobs.

When dealing with the urine problems I encounter in care homes, I know that M-P performs better than anything I have tried in over 45 years and having the absolute need to solve the problem in one hit I use the one that I trust to give me the required result. Maybe one of the Fusion range would be as good but cannot risk possibly leaving the client with an odour problem due to my experimentation. With other cleaning issues I can experiment at home but don't fancy urinating on one of my carpets several times a day for a month or so to preform the test

 

[Steve Porter]

Fusion8 is formulated with encapsulating and protecting polymers, penetrants, builders, dispersants and anti-foam agents.


The product penetrates into soil deposits bound on to fibres by oil, grease, tacky residues from spills, even detergents used in previous cleans and breaks them up into small particles. Encapsulating polymers surround the resulting particles of greasy soil and residues and crystalise around them.

As the polymer rapidly crystalises the soil and residues are locked in and the water content is free to evaporate quickly.

As the carpet/fibre dries any deep stains wicking back are in turn encapsulated by the polymers.

The polymer encased soil crystals are very dry and brittle and vacuum pick-up easily removes the encapsulated dirt . Instead of leaving behind tacky detergent residues there is a residue of polymer which continues to encapsulate soils and a protective polymer which helps prevent re-adhesion of soil to fibres. Because there are no detergent residues, water is not held by the fibres and drying is much quicker.

The overall result is a cleaner carpet, much improved resistance to wet and dry resoiling, enhanced dry soil pick-up during subsequent vacuuming and easier next-time cleaning.

Product benefits: * More thorough cleaning; * No tacky residues to produce rapid resoiling; * Neutral formulation – no fibre damage,
;* Reduced wick back and browning due to continuing encapsulation effect; * Shortened drying times over conventional products; * Enhanced dry soil pick-up; * Stain resistance; * Improved soil release during subsequent cleans; *Effective at high dilutions means economical in use; *Versatility of formulation means can be used in all types of process including spotting and stain removal etc.; * Biodegradable formulation


& yes, like M Power it really works & adds massive value to the clean. Squirt of M Power followed by a squirt of Fusion 8 on a deep seated blood stained area. Results....all gone!

 

[John Bolton]

Gary,

I hope my preceding post goes some way to answering your question. For general cleaning I can get similar performance from either product and both out-perform Spitfire (at lower product cost).

There are two differences you may wish to consider:

Fusion 8 leaves a polymer soil retardant that builds with each clean and has a mild fragrance which customers seem to notice more that I do.

M-Power has a residual cleaning action that continues whilst there is sufficient moisture to maintain the micro-cellular matrix. For slight remnants of staining or odour it can be post-sprayed and left in as it does not require rinsing.​

There you have it - best thing is to try both.

 

[Matt Seymour]

I keep on hearing so many good things about this M-Power...

Where can I get hold of some?

 

[Joe Hatton]

from here

http://www.worldofclean.co.uk/index.php?categoryID=121

 

[adrian marsh]

Following a trip to Solutions last week I have been trialing this M-Power stuff in a few situations. From simple food spills to soot marks, from stains pre-treated with Vanish to "no way that will come out" spots of unknown origin. So far it seems to do what it says on the bottle. Have yet to try some of the other freebies but if M-Power carries on like this I may not need to. I can almost feel myself reaching for the cheque book to order some give away bottles.

 

[David Rogers]

I'm mindful that we sound like rampant fan-boys but the fact is that cleaning solutions have been more or less 'evolutionary' over the years, whereas M-Power is a 'revolutionary' step forward. Sounds almost cinematic but in the (albeit short) time I've been using it, it's absolutely true.

I've very close to throwing my harsh enzymatic pre-sprays in the wheelie bin, as M-Power eats them alive. To be fair, I've not tried it on soil or stains of a heavy oil or synthetic nature but I tend to pre-treat these anyway with solvents etc. But on the grub, the grease, and the organic nasties out there, it's pretty stunning.

 

[Garry Boniface]

So how about application / process?

M power is labelled a micro splitter, so I presume I agitate and extract or bonnet as per (good old) One Step?

Is Fusion 8 a "spray and dwell" type product?

If this helps, I avoid greasy, pub type applications like the plague. I would say 95+% of my HWE jobs are domestic situations.

 

[Joe Hatton]

Gary
Are you sure M-Power is a micro splitter.
I dont see that on the website nor on my container.

M-Power DOES need dwell time, unlike a micro splitter.
Needs 15-20 minutes.
Agitation helps straight after pre spray so as to get it around the fibres so it can do its job.

 

[Nick Robertson-Vousden]

Hi

Fusion 8 does not require dwell or that much agitiation, we have some customers who are not agitating it at all and still gettting excellent results,

Personally I would agitate but that just because I always have!!

Best regards

Nick

 

[Trevor Ives]

I have found that MP is ace for bodily spills of all sorts inc faeces and vomit. Just stand back while it is working- preferably out of the room as it releases large amounts of odour.
Fusion8 for everything else, especially EOT cleans.

 

[Garry Boniface]

Gary
Are you sure M-Power is a micro splitter.
I dont see that on the website nor on my container.

Er now you mention it, no. I thought I had read it when I clicked on the banner but got it wrong.

I was looking at a lot of pages and probably read the wrong bit. Thanks, that actually makes more sense now.

I always agitate prespray so I guess it does not matter.

Nick, Is there much difference?

 

[Garry Boniface]

Let's try a different approach (indulge this "thicky").

If I have a 3-piece suite with say, oily head patches.. Which is best?

If I have a domestic carpet situation where the owner is worried about chemicals / allergies is M power the best?

 

[Nick Robertson-Vousden]

Hi Garry

Difficult one to answer

M-Power cleans, disinfects and destroys odours, and allergens

Fusion 8 cleans and leaves a soil retardent, it also contains a unique wetting agent which would make it my preferred choice on upholstery, may need a little help with the grease so you may want to add a little Soluboost, or treat the heads with spotting solution it does not, at this time deal with malodours in terms of breaking down the contamination.

Both are eco friendly both in dilution and content, both are bio degradable the most unfriendly part is the bottle.

So I guess one for each of the scenarios you have stated

Hope this helps

Best regards

Nick

 

[Garry Boniface]

Thanks Nick,

I THINK I know what I need

 

[Steve Porter]

Hi Garry
For dirty uph. M power (1:80) light spray. Then light Fusion 8 (1:160) on contact areas & agitate prior to extraction with cold water rince.
If your client is chemical sensitive then I prefer to use just M Power. 1:120 in warm pre-spray & agitate prior to fresh water rinse.

Fusion 8 can be used as a boost to M Power & really cuts through the staining that M Powr has started to dislodge. Agitated with a rotary has always given me the most impressive results.

If you've a nice patterned carpet or faded uph then you can add Soluboost to M Power (hot), the results are very impressive.
Sadly there is stil no "perfect" product for all types of situation just lots of great ones that assist each other. It's what makes you a better cleaner than Joe Bloggs down the road.