pile lifters

[m roberts]

Recently some have mentioned the use of pile lifters esp. on commerical carpet. How more effective are they compared to my Sebo? I rang GE Holloway and they quoted me £1800 + vat! Chemspec quoted £1100 + vat.

Are these machines a must for commerical work and anyone got one for sale!

thanks
Mark

 

[Ken Wainwright]

Marc

A pile lifter is in a different league to a normal vacuum. I suppose you could say it's like comparing a T/M to a portable. I use a Holloway power brush and it's superb. Expensive kit but allows a quicker and higher quality job. I'll keep my eyes peeled for you too.
Happy cleaning
Ken

 

[Francis]

Hi Mark

A superb piece of kit for any commercial job.
You can often pick them up second hand at very reasonable prices.. just keep your eyes open
Regards
Derek

 

[Phil Marlor]

Mark,

You say you use a Sebo for pre-vacuuming.

At my local distributer they have quoted me a price of £235.00,(Prochem £295.00) are they much better than your average vac and in what way.

Thanks

Phil.

ps The Sebo vacuum cleaner is a BS36

[ 08 October 2001: Message edited by: Deep Clean ]

 

[Mark Betts]

Phil

Go to the sebo websiet.

They are cheap,cheap cheap.
www.sebo.co.uk

Prochem are very expensive

Mark

PS

Did u get my e mail?

Phone us I am back now

 

[Russell Court@]

An absolute must for commercial work.I saw one demonstrated at a Chemspec seminar earlier in the year.When you consider how much of the soilage in carpet is dry, this will significantly improve results and speed up the cleaning process.

Carry On Cleaning

 

[Phil Marlor]

Russell,

What did you see demonstrated at Chemspec, the Sebo or the Holloway pile lifter power brush.

By the way Russell feel free to award me some stars.

Rgds
Phil.

 

[Shaun Ashmore]

Sebo do 2 types of brushes for the up right regular and commercial might be worth enquiring, I heard this when I went into my local janitorial supply shop, the owner was talking to a contract cleaner.

Hope this helps

 

[m roberts]

Thanks lads for the input. Appreciate 'keeping your eyes open' for me Ken. I'd definatley be interested if one came up for sale.

I bought my Sebo from my Prochem dist. but he buys them direct from Sebo. I paid £245 + vat for the BS36. Its difficult for me to compare with another vac as I nevered did the vacing until I became a carpet cleaner.

But in terms of vac power, robustness (is that a word), image and supplier backup the Sebo was the right choice for me. I think its important to have the two seperate motors for increased efficiency and performance. I priced other so called industrial vacs but the Sebo appealed to me more. The only disadvantage is that the head is only 14 or 16 in wide (can't remember what) but 20 in would be nice although vac power may suffer.

The problem with using any vac apart from a 'pile lifter' is that the customer may think 'hes vacing the carpet when I could have done that and saved a few quid', so it has to look at least half professional/industrial or something the customer can't buy in the shop.

The reason I want a pile lifter is that the Sebo on very low cut commercial pile isn't must good as its not 'aggressive' enough to really seperate the pile and remove the dry soil.

Its late and the above may not make much sense.

Mark

PS. Mark Betts, did you receive my email, Just checking. thanks

 

[Russell Court@]

Hello Phil, how are you? Hope you are busy.

I'm pretty sure it was the Holloway pile lifter I saw demonstrated I was really impressed. Stars are on their way,see you soon.

Carry On Cleaning

 

[Phil Marlor]

Hi Russell,

Business is great, I've just had the best 7 months since I started.

Also I took Ken's advise and I'am slowly increasing my prices with no effect on the amount of work comming in. I quoted a price of £120.00 for 3 piece the other day and £100.00 for the daughter's 2x2, although it is in Milton Keynes and you know what a bitch of a place that is + an hours drive.

Looking forward to the stars, Unlike some of these 5 star guys I've been on 2 now for 5 months.

Rgds
Phil.

 

[Ken Wainwright]

I've heard about the 2 different brush types on the sebo too. I gather they are a) 2 rows of bristles, and b) 1 row of bristles and 1 row beater bar. The 2 row bristles are at their best on low profile carpets. The bristle/beater bar arrangement is at it's best on carpet/underlay instalations. If you want to improve the performance of any vacuum cleaner, try brushing it first with your carpet brush or better still, go over with a Host type machine.

Don't worry about your Sebo Mark, it's one of the best vacs. on the market. Also, don't be concerned about your clients vaccing the carpet first. Thank them for their help, and then proceed to show them how to look after their machine (bags, filters and so on) and how to vac a carpet properly, with particular attention to edges and around large furniture to reduce the risk of moths on wool carpets.

As for pile-lifters, they are so big and heavy you probably wouldn't use one much on residential work.

Happy cleaning
Ken

 

[Russell Court@]

Hello Phil.

Glad you are doing ok.

That's sound advice from Ken about your pricing, you might lose a few old customers because of it, I did, and you will probably have to sell yourself a bit more, but it's all worth it.

As other cleantalkers have said on these pages it's the difference between making a living and making a profit, or comfortably tackling one or two jobs a day or trying to cram in 4 or 5.

And as for Milton Keynes, I know what you mean. I used to do a lot of work there years ago and to be truthful I don't miss it.

Carry On Cleaning