M-power vs Split-x vs Wool-X

[John Bolton]

Nick has left the building.

Last time I spoke on the subject he had two twin-speed (http://www.cleantalk.co.uk/threads/limited-stock-of-used-excellent-condition-commercial-machines.12884/#10 and one Victor 400 (Std. speed) but I have no idea of the price for the Victor

 

[Garry Boniface]

So what are you trying to say Nick - that M-Power is no good after six years on the shelf?

 

[Steve Porter]

In 6 years it's gone through a few tweaks as well & each time it's got more potent (better).

 

[John Bolton]

So what are you trying to say Nick - that M-Power is no good after six years on the shelf?

No Garry,

What Nick is saying is that the statement:

.......... I bought some m-power today

Is simply untrue. He did not buy it yesterday but six years ago!

So if the initial post starts with an inaccurate statement then perhaps what follows comes into question and the motives for posting become equally questionable.

 

[Steve Allan]

Well Joes lack of response speaks volumes. I've always pondered why people do this on forums when people go out of the way to help.

 

[Andrew Evans]

 

[John Dane]

Use it on just about all carpets now.
Bare or mixed with Solu-Boost depending on the soiling.
Find the longer you leave it the better it works.
Put it down today in a soiled lounge , agitated
then finished off the cushions on the 3 piece so
a good 30 mins dwell. Oversprayed lightly again
and agitated, sandwich and cuppa so dwell again
for 10 mins, the extracted. To be fair it looked good
to go before extraction.
For some reason I always use HD on upholstery, just
seems to work that way for me.

 

[Steve Barnett]

I'm not interested in a product that needs a 40 minute dwell

 

[Shaun Ashmore]

Steve for me you have said it all I prefer micro splitters unfortunately I've got a garage full of it I'm wanting to try spm and will do also I'm having a renaissance with formula 90 as a pre spray the end result is paramount but I'm finding I'm getting a great result anyway but spm is next.

Shaun

 

[Steve Porter]

Same as you Steve, time is money
I think what John was saying was that you "can" leave M Power for 40 mins if you have other things to be getting on with but as we know it's not necessery. 10 mins is about all it gets from me. From spray down, agitate & then the time it takes to drag the hoses in is all it gets & that's more than long enough

M Power is however not just for lightly soiled carpets, it works wonders on very neglected commercials too.
Needle punch contract carpeting, 12 years old, neglected & vacced occasionally with a Henry.
Thought I'd compare M Power & Shockwave (2 ends of the spectrum) on the main entrance way (department store)
Both areas looked great (not perfect but then I'm no miricle worker!!) & the only noticeable differance was that Shockwave made the chewing gum clean up a bit easier?

Filthy wool carpet? Either use it stronger @ 80:1 or boost with Solu-boost

It can't NOT work & I've been very grateful for it in recent weeks when the eot's have had no hot water & even then it only gets a 10 min sit in the carpet!!

Dwell= The time it hits the carpet & NOT from point of agitation!!

 

[Tony Nash]

Same as Rich. Before I knew of Solutions, I tried the CS X- name products.
I thought they were pretty good.

I stumbled upon Solutions whilst finding the 'Stinger' with online shopping. That lead to me browsing then trying out M Power.
For me, I loved the stuff straight away.

M Power's do futuristic....clean, easy to use, economical, effective, safe. If you've got a light to medium soiling job, M Power's the business. Add some oxidiser, such as Solu-boost, and you've then turned up the power.

If you've got darker traffic lanes, move to Nick's SPM or Shockwave.

Though, you could perhaps get away with ligtly over spraying SPM on top of the M Power.


I've used the X-products, they're good, but not as good as Solutions' solutions.

 

[Tony Nash]

Interesting Nick!

I suspected there was an ulterior motive behind this thread and in the light of this information it appears to be more likely.

Surely he has not waited all this time to try the M-Power he bought six years ago.

Wow, so M Power's got a great shelf life then John!

 

[John Bolton]

Tony,

I still have a small amount of pre-release M-Power (the original formulation) and test it occasionally. Thought the testing is not exactly under laboratory conditions, it certainly appears to work as well as ever.

 

[Jim Neal]

They are a couple of gangsters

You could say they run a Grime syndicate

 

[Carl Sands]

I bashfully admitted to Nick the other day that I've not really tried Mpower yet. I get on very well with shockwave and SPM though - tried Mpower on a pretty minging car a few months back and I reckon I extracted too quickly. Am I right in thinking that Fusion 8 is like Mpower on steroids?

 

[Tony Nash]

As Steve P said, you don't have to give M Power that much dwell, but if it works out that you can, and want to, then it's good to know it can go on being productive as a soil bond breaker, odour destroyer.

Also, maybe a CC'ers take on being 'green' is pivotal on whether they choose to use M Power or not. I mean, usually I'm so busy I just want to get the job done, but I do care about the environment, my impact on things, my bothering to use a cleaning solution which ticks so many boxes and I can feel proud to use, instead of reaching for the nuclear option, one size fits all approach.

 

[Tony Nash]

Am I right in thinking that Fusion 8 is like Mpower on steroids?

Hi Carl.......No. Fabric 8 is not colloidal, it is a combination of two polymers, that will break the soiling's bond, then encapsulate it and suspend it for extraction.

After you've extracted, you'll have left behind a partial stain inhibitor ( not protector, not the same as a protector, but similar ).

One of Fabric 8's polymers encapsulates around soiling, suspending it, allowing it to dry out and then will be removed when someone vacuums. On this note, because of the partial stain inhibitor remaining in the pile, this allows dry soiling to 'slip' better and so enhance the effect of vacuuming.

An added bonus with Fabric 8 is it's pH neutral. I know I know, most soiling tends to be acidic, hence there being so many alkaline solutions / products on the market but, with Fabric 8's pH neutral assault on soiling, you'd be dealing with soiling on both sides of the pH table, especially good to know with delicate fabrics ( Uncle Ken mentioned on another post that Fabric 8 is his favourite, on the strength of it being pH neutral. Ken was a NCCA director and knows a thing or two - if he rates Fabric 8, there's a reason for it. )

M Power & Fabric 8 are different,but both brilliant in there own way.

 

[Derek Bolton]

To work effectively Colloidal pretreatment applications require a dwell time of up to 30 minutes.
This is a fact that can work for you or against you...this is where the professionalism comes into play...when and where to use it

All chemicals will have been thoroughly tested before we are let loose with them and dilution rates, dwell times given based on those tests
The people who do the testing cannot see the particular item we are proposing to clean (even with my Big Brothers all seeing eye) therefore 'we' must make a calculated (I was going to say guess but perhaps not) decision based on infomation gathered in the pre-clean survey....presuming one is carried out....if not that's where the guessing would come in...not a good idea!

 

[Joe W Brown]

 

[Richard Cole]

There has been quite a lot of comments with regards to dwell time, to be honest by the time I have agitated, set up my machine, had a quick cup of coffee, there has been more than enough dwell time for those products that need it. Even if I'm in a hurry there are still ways around it by prepping several rooms and by the time you get back to the first room it has had the desired dwell time.